[16:33] Redbaiters Stanwell: What are scared of? [16:33] CDB Barkley: getting sued [16:33] Elli Pinion: lack of money [16:33] Oggie Ballinger: Budget cuts [16:33] Corwin Carillon: accountability [16:33] CDB Barkley: losing students [16:33] Mae Mathilde: lack of control [16:33] Rane Mistwallow: security [16:33] Hyperion Sands: privacy [16:33] Ginger Questi: change in almost any form [16:33] Hyperion Sands: IP [16:33] Bron Bloxome: IP -retention rates - globalisation [16:33] Sarracenia Lupindo: too many students [16:34] Ninmah Ash: technology [16:34] Hyperion Sands: good one Ginger [16:34] Eliana Jigsaw: parents complaining [16:34] Rane Mistwallow: educational technology [16:34] Caspar Lefevre: chipmunks [16:34] Ninmah Ash: tornadoes [16:34] Ginger Questi: LOL - sarah [16:34] Shaffer Parx: HAHA [16:34] Object: Help documentation is available at: http://www.slguide.com/help [16:34] Elli Pinion: lol! [16:35] Ninmah Ash: lol [16:35] Hyperion Sands: you guys are funny [16:35] Corwin Carillon: there's trouble in Denmark [16:35] Helena Perlmann: great image [16:35] Ninmah Ash: Recent Items tab Sue [16:36] Nancy Dannunzio: Look in your recent items... [16:36] Ninmah Ash: Sunglasses [16:36] Bron Bloxome: in a folder of their own [16:36] Zombie Rezzer Level 1-3 v6.2: Chase Marellan hears loud moans!! [16:36] Mari Asturias: arghghghghghg! [16:36] Bouligny Fall: ahhhh [16:37] Bron Bloxome: be afraid - very afraid [16:37] Caspar Lefevre: just sue those zombies [16:37] Thursday Xu: ZMSs [16:37] Lyr Lobo: hehe [16:37] Mari Asturias: hee [16:37] Caspar Lefevre: we use moodle - is that a zombie too? [16:37] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: lol [16:38] Thursday Xu: its a moombie [16:38] Caspar Lefevre: hee [16:38] Hyperion Sands: moodle is open source zombie [16:38] Sarracenia Lupindo: 'lol [16:38] Krystalbird Dirval: We use moodle, too [16:38] Bron Bloxome: dripping blood [16:38] Mari Asturias: oooOOOoooo cue the scary music [16:38] Caspar Lefevre: wait, wait, I saw this on HBO last night [16:38] Rane Mistwallow: What does that make ANGEL? [16:38] Zombie Rezzer Level 1-3 v6.2: Helena Perlmann hears loud moans!! [16:38] Sue Keen: thank you, got the glasses [16:39] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: is that gun? [16:39] Corwin Carillon: lol [16:39] Mari Asturias: lolol [16:39] Kix Kayamanu: LOL [16:39] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: glad i'm in the flat web! [16:39] Ginger Questi: lol [16:39] Corwin Carillon: go zombie CDB [16:39] Eliana Jigsaw: CLASSIC!!!!!!! [16:39] Shaffer Parx: HELP ME [16:39] Kix Kayamanu: This funny! [16:39] Hawker Supermarine: i hate blackboard [16:39] Shaffer Parx: I DON"T WANT TO BE A ZOMBIE [16:39] Hawker Supermarine: i am not a zombie - i resist [16:39] Thursday Xu: hahaha [16:39] Elli Pinion: hahahaha [16:39] Corwin Howlett: hothead [16:39] Mari Asturias: I am laughing so hard [16:40] TwitterHUD 0.1: checking twitter settings... [16:40] Caspar Lefevre: can I put these in my inventory? [16:40] Bron Bloxome: Zombie was my first life [16:40] Lyr Lobo: hehe [16:40] TwitterHUD 0.1: [ type /8 YOUR STATUS MESSAGE to post to twitter ] [16:40] TwitterHUD 0.1: finished reading settings [16:40] TwitterHUD 0.1: ready to tweet [16:40] Oggie Ballinger: That we will admit to? [16:40] Hawker Supermarine: i've got one on order [16:40] Lyr Lobo: i [16:40] Lyr Lobo: so true [16:40] Bron Bloxome: I have a blow up zombie [16:40] Fred Brecher: one of my last institutions was the Marine Corps [16:40] Multi Gadget v1.55.2 by Timeless Prototype [16:40] Corwin Carillon: where's Larry's buffalo gun when you need it [16:41] Hawker Supermarine: i am into guerilla warfare [16:41] Hawker Supermarine: i saw this last week [16:41] Caspar Lefevre: whoah that guy's definitely a zombie [16:41] Bron Bloxome: ed tech survivalists - love it [16:42] Multi Gadget v1.55.2 by Timeless Prototype [16:43] Corwin Carillon: errmm think we have the 404 wrror on campus already ... we just don't see it [16:43] Bron Bloxome: be afraid if the 404 [16:43] Multi Gadget v1.55.2 by Timeless Prototype [16:43] :: : Gene Shwalb: no sound on videostream [16:45] Hawker Supermarine: burn the IT servers [16:45] CDB Barkley: break glass is there [16:45] Lyr Lobo: hehe [16:45] Hawker Supermarine: blackboard will fail based on its own contradictions - seriously [16:46] Hawker Supermarine: it is suffering from serious bloatware-itis [16:46] Hawker Supermarine: it's buggy, slow, inflexible - the users are beginning to hate it [16:48] Jarold String: At our school the administrators are behind the experimentation-it's other faculty that are the challenge. [16:48] Caspar Lefevre: ok ok , but we switched from blackboard to moodle in a single summer. small school, yes, but it wasn't too painful. and the process was useful for many of us. [16:48] Ginger Questi: We see the same thing, Jarold - instructors tend to fear change [16:49] Hawker Supermarine: at our school it's usually the other way around - the central administrators are enthralled with big solutions - BB, Exchange, Vignette [16:49] Hawker Supermarine: the faculty (some of them) are innovators [16:49] Hawker Supermarine: us local administrators and support types are caught in the middle [16:50] Bron Bloxome: when the only tool you have is a hammer - everything looks like a nail [16:50] Ginger Questi: LOL - always loved that quote, Bron [16:50] Thursday Xu: or a thumb [16:50] Ginger Questi: LOL [16:50] Corwin Carillon: we are a zombe of the system that is the pedagogy of national education systems and the pedagogies embedded in those structures [16:50] Hyperion Sands: i would contribute, but I just totally agree with you [16:51] Hyperion Sands: so that would be redundant [16:51] Redbaiters Stanwell: hhahhahaa [16:51] Hawker Supermarine: a bad experience with BB can turn people off to technology as whole permanently [16:51] Sarracenia Lupindo: Corwin -- AMEN!! [16:51] Bron Bloxome: Teachers in my networks overwhelmingly tell me that Web2.0 tools have given them back creative control [16:52] Corwin Carillon: but I wonder Bron how isolated they feel in the culture of their school/institution [16:52] Larry Pixel: that is so true [16:52] Hawker Supermarine: i agree [16:52] Larry Pixel: we are the revolutionaries --that IS our jobs [16:52] Sarracenia Lupindo: I'm betting on bigtime isolation! [16:53] Thursday Xu: yes larry [16:53] Bron Bloxome: yes but they were isolated before now they are supported by faculty outside their institutions [16:53] Sarracenia Lupindo: It still hurst when they throw things at you. [16:53] Larry Pixel: it is changing [16:53] Larry Pixel: lol [16:53] Corwin Carillon: so part of the revolution is networking these people ... is not just about syndication ..its about networking the subscribers [16:53] Larry Pixel: it does hurt when they throw things [16:53] Jarold String: I have to say that Bb can be used in interesting ways-not that you can't use other tools-but you can embed youtube and delicious for example-and force it to be more interesting. [16:53] Hawker Supermarine: in some institutions they actively quash alternatives [16:53] Hyperion Sands: you can share on faceook much easier [16:53] Larry Pixel: yes good point Jarold [16:53] Larry Pixel: yes good point Jarold [16:54] Hawker Supermarine: "the students need to have a consistent look and feel" - the party line [16:54] Sarracenia Lupindo: I've got bootmarks, speaking of squashing. [16:54] Larry Pixel: but it is fake 2.0 [16:54] Comrade Aristocrat: you're kind of aggregating people rather than feeds [16:55] Corwin Carillon: you can't talk about syndication though without talking about subscribers [16:55] Comrade Aristocrat: same idea different "media" [16:55] Corwin Carillon: I think it is more than aggregation through Comrafe [16:56] Corwin Carillon: Comrade [16:56] Larry Pixel: lol [16:56] Comrade Aristocrat: I can agree with that [16:56] Comrade Aristocrat: but in order to build community you first have to connect them [16:56] CDB Barkley: Alabama looks a lot like Virginia [16:56] Redbaiters Stanwell: And RSS is one way to connect them [16:56] Comrade Aristocrat: al and va are cousins [16:56] Larry Pixel: the Internet is biiiiigggggg and deeeeeeepppp [16:57] Larry Pixel: lol [16:57] Ninmah Ash: lol [16:57] Corwin Carillon: we spent almost the first decade of this century and part of the last century talking about engagement but maybe we should be talking about student and teacher agency and how we engender, support and promote that [16:58] Larry Pixel: yes --what Corwin said [16:58] Mari Asturias: lol [16:58] Claudia Linden: :DDDD [16:58] Ninmah Ash: awesome! [16:58] Corwin Carillon: whoot [16:58] Bouligny Fall: awesome [16:58] Thursday Xu: haha [16:58] Mari Asturias: the swamp of knowledge [16:59] CDB Barkley: http://umwblogs.org/ [17:02] Caspar Lefevre: sorry, what was the platform for this? [17:02] Comrade Aristocrat: wordpress [17:02] Caspar Lefevre: thanks [17:02] CDB Barkley: WordPress Multiuser [17:02] Leo Cosmos: http://mu.wordpress.org/ [17:02] Comrade Aristocrat: cool thing is granularity with aggregation [17:02] Thursday Xu: what if somone comes and harvests your trotline while you aren't looking? [17:02] Comrade Aristocrat: yin and yang [17:03] Jarold String: this is great. [17:03] Comrade Aristocrat: we have ways of dealing with that in Alabama [17:03] Thursday Xu: lol! [17:03] Krystalbird Dirval: Yes, pease [17:04] Mari Asturias: please type the name of that plug in [17:04] Comrade Aristocrat: http://bavatuesdays.com has a lot of WPMU stuff [17:04] Ginger Questi: I vote yes too [17:04] Comrade Aristocrat: that's Jim's blog [17:04] Comrade Aristocrat: feedwordpress is the plugin I believe [17:05] CDB Barkley: and it coss yo $45? [17:05] Comrade Aristocrat: not sure [17:05] Comrade Aristocrat: but not bad compared toa Bb plugin :) [17:05] Comrade Aristocrat: but not bad compared toa Bb plugin :) [17:05] Caspar Lefevre: is syndication zombie-proof? [17:06] Caspar Lefevre: nice [17:06] CDB Barkley: Reverend Jim [17:06] Corwin Carillon: so true [17:06] Bron Bloxome: use that hammer to bang square pegs into round holes :-) [17:07] Caspar Lefevre: but don't educational institutions with limited means HAVE to force people to make certain choices in order to provide meaningful support? (Devil's advocate question) [17:07] Corwin Carillon: it's about providing the choices alongside examples of agency use in those tools [17:07] Ginger Questi: not just training though - they will needsupport to feel comfortable [17:08] Jarold String: This is a different use of RSS-no one would read everyone's blog-it creates a new blog. [17:08] Bron Bloxome: give teachers agency AND training - share stories of where it excels [17:08] Corwin Carillon: yes! [17:09] Bron Bloxome: some will need training others will need only inspiration [17:09] Krystalbird Dirval: Right [17:09] Jarold String: training and reason for using. Instructors need to see exactly what the pedagogical uses there are-although they should also be able to see that themselves. [17:09] Caspar Lefevre: open source = support model becomes global, collaborative [17:09] Caspar Lefevre: right? [17:10] Comrade Aristocrat: for sure [17:10] Larry Pixel: SL is like that -- we are a community that bridges our institutions [17:10] Corwin Carillon: maybe we have to dig a bit into what we mean by training too Bron .... we all hear prob have a diff idea about 'training' than admins/some faculty [17:10] CDB Barkley: and it is dynamic [17:10] CDB Barkley: when the wiki changes, the blog changes [17:10] CDB Barkley: uses JSON [17:10] Comrade Aristocrat: yeah training is an ugly word IMO [17:10] Comrade Aristocrat: you train seals not people [17:10] Bron Bloxome: @Zapp modelling goes a long way - but take this conference - there will be people who did not speak up to ask for assistance because of their lack of confidence with the tool [17:11] Bron Bloxome: I have no problem with training as ONE part of a broad learning strategy [17:12] Bron Bloxome: Not everyone is ready to jump up and join the revolution - some will have to attend rallies! [17:12] Comrade Aristocrat: for sure [17:12] Comrade Aristocrat: who's hosting the next one? [17:12] Larry Pixel: :) indeed .... we need disturbers of the peace [17:13] Bron Bloxome: Yes - more Rallies [17:13] Comrade Aristocrat: revolutions always start small [17:13] Hawker Supermarine: the masses are unhappier than you think [17:13] Comrade Aristocrat: and that's a good thing! [17:13] Bron Bloxome: @zapp definitely [17:13] Corwin Carillon: yes but the nature of your training is probably geared not just simply being interactive but unsettling/transforming [17:13] Hawker Supermarine: i teach a web 2.0 class as part of our BB training program and i start the workshop with the statement that you can't do most of this stuff in BB [17:13] Elli Pinion: maybe we need rally caps with our sunglasses! [17:14] Bron Bloxome: we need success (and failure) stories to share - stories are compelling [17:14] Hawker Supermarine: i am into the ghandi MLK model of passive resistance [17:14] Thursday Xu: yes bron [17:14] Corwin Carillon: yes! .. failure stories too! [17:14] Comrade Aristocrat: how's that work Hawker? [17:14] Caspar Lefevre: quite a few of the services and technologies out there are not free, though. Take voicethread, which we saw earlier today. Awesome, can't wait to use it, but it looks like I (and my students) will have to pay to get unlimited access, for obvious reasons. Facebook is a profit-seeking corporation, not an open-source revolutionary cadre. Money still matters a lot, so richer institutions with vision will end up riding the wave, I fear, providing the best training and the best access to the most new technologies. And we end up where we started. [17:15] Larry Pixel: sweet [17:15] Jarold String: For my digital media class, everything must be online that I and the students do-we use wikis, facebook, blogs-anything but Bb (well except for posting grades) [17:15] Hawker Supermarine: yes - but compare the cost of those packages to the bizillion dollars you pay in BB licensing and hosting [17:15] Hawker Supermarine: between hosting and licensing my institution pays $350K for BB [17:16] Comrade Aristocrat: ouch [17:16] Jarold String: edupunk-yeah! [17:16] Comrade Aristocrat: you could host for all of us here [17:16] Hawker Supermarine: plus another $125 to outsource the necessary support [17:16] Hawker Supermarine: $125L [17:16] Hawker Supermarine: $125K - sorry can't type [17:17] Bron Bloxome: I am coaching in a workshop on Connected futures all run in free applications - Google , Skype, wordpress, twitter, flickr, delidous, etc [17:17] CDB Barkley: you are fine [17:17] Bron Bloxome: bummer [17:17] Ninmah Ash: ./cheer! [17:17] Bron Bloxome: we are enjoying this so much [17:17] Thursday Xu: pink! [17:17] Hawker Supermarine: i think the cost factor will eventually drive the institutions to give up on expensive solutions like BB [17:17] Bron Bloxome: can we revolt and refuse to stop [17:17] Ninmah Ash: lol [17:18] Hawker Supermarine: ouch [17:18] Ginger Questi: LOL [17:18] Hawker Supermarine: heartburn [17:18] Caspar Lefevre: clap clap (brains) clap clap [17:18] Caspar Lefevre: brains [17:18] Caspar Lefevre: clap clap [17:18] Comrade Aristocrat: burn baby burn [17:18] Larry Pixel claps wildly !!! [17:18] Larry Pixel claps wildly !!! [17:18] Larry Pixel claps wildly !!! [17:18] Mari Asturias: claps with wild abandon [17:18] Larry Pixel: ./a [17:18] Larry Pixel claps wildly !!! [17:18] Comrade Aristocrat: beats drilling anyday [17:18] Larry Pixel claps wildly !!! [17:18] Larry Pixel claps wildly !!! [17:18] Rane Mistwallow: clap wildly!!!!!! [17:18] Rane Mistwallow: clap wildly!!!!!! [17:18] Mari Asturias: lolol [17:18] Thursday Xu: woohhoooo [17:18] Ninmah Ash: /ance [17:19] Hawker Supermarine: what a flameout [17:19] Larry Pixel: lol [17:19] Claudia Linden: /says smokin' guys! [17:19] Hawker Supermarine: better to burn up than to fade away [17:19] Corwin Carillon: yay! [17:19] Caspar Lefevre: I think the term "edufunk" might also be appropriate, all things considered: "they call it the white house but that's a temporary condition [17:19] Caspar Lefevre: clap clap [17:19] Oggie Ballinger: Yeah! [17:19] Mari Asturias: WooT [17:20] Larry Pixel claps wildly !!! [17:20] Corwin Carillon: woot [17:20] Kin2002 Amaterasu: great [17:20] Larry Pixel claps wildly !!! [17:20] Jamer Jarman: *applause* [17:20] Larry Pixel: HoooOO!!! [17:20] Larry Pixel: HooooOO! [17:20] Larry Pixel: HooooOO! [17:20] Claudia Linden applauds wildly [17:20] Corwin Carillon: /claps [17:20] Jamer Jarman: /applause [17:20] Larry Pixel: HoooOO!!! [17:20] Larry Pixel: HooooOO! [17:20] Jamer Jarman: woo! [17:20] Rane Mistwallow: clap wildly!! [17:20] Oggie Ballinger: V^v^.:HowwwlzzZ:.^v^V [17:20] Larry Pixel: lol [17:20] Caspar Lefevre: purging [17:20] Bron Bloxome: thx [17:20] Shaffer Parx: Thank you [17:20] Claudia Linden: Smoke the Academy [17:21] Ginger Questi: charred but inspired [17:21] Corwin Carillon: yay thanks LT! [17:21] Thursday Xu: what a great conference - thanks go to everybody!!! [17:22] Ginger Questi: Excellent conference - thanks to all who participated and worked behind the scenes [17:22] CDB Barkley: yay stella [17:22] Thursday Xu: wtg stella [17:22] CDB Barkley: she is awesome [17:22] Beaver Lightstone: Thank you all! [17:22] Comrade Aristocrat: yay cogdog [17:22] Oggie Ballinger: Very well done. [17:22] Beaver Lightstone: What a great experience! [17:22] Corwin Carillon: Stella and CJ tyvm! [17:22] Rane Mistwallow: Thank you all for your help and support. It has been a wonderful conference. [17:22] Hawker Supermarine: /yay [17:22] Elli Pinion: Thanks EVERYONE!! [17:22] Sarracenia Lupindo: this has been fantastic. thanks for everything!!! [17:22] June Lightstone: so glad I came! Thank you everyone for your patience. [17:23] Bron Bloxome: thanks everyone [17:24] Bron Bloxome: this has been a blast - very friendly and supportive group and inspriational practitioners as speakers [17:24] Thursday Xu: yes larry [17:28] CDB Barkley: Weeee! ^.^ [17:28] Claudia Linden: great conclusion, larry. awesome. [17:28] Comrade Aristocrat: thanks [17:28] Hawker Supermarine: thank you [17:28] Larry Pixel: thanks all [17:28] Thursday Xu: yaaaay [17:28] Shaffer Parx: thanks [17:28] Comrade Aristocrat: had a great time [17:28] Oggie Ballinger: Thanks everyone! It was great! [17:28] Elli Pinion: Thank you Larry and crew! [17:28] Jarold String: thanks good night [17:28] Larry Pixel: HoooOO!!! [17:28] Larry Pixel: HooooOO! [17:28] Bron Bloxome: we revolt and refuse to leave [17:28] Eliana Jigsaw: Thank you! This is an experience I will not soon forget. [17:28] CDB Barkley: /rru [17:28] Rane Mistwallow: wonderfully done! [17:28] CDB Barkley: ******* RRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUBBBGGAA ************ [17:28] Sue Keen: thank you. i enjoyed being able to participate in something link this [17:28] Corwin Carillon: thanks Larry ... rest well NMC staff! [17:28] Eco Wise: Thanks everyone [17:29] Beaver Lightstone: Thanks again! [17:29] Chimera Cosmos: Woo Hoo!!! [17:29] Leo Cosmos: Great job everyone involved! Thanks! [17:29] Bron Bloxome: Bravo NMC team! [17:29] CDB Barkley: thanks everyone [17:29] CDB Barkley: YOU ROCK [17:29] CDB Barkley: all of y'all [17:29] Kin2002 Amaterasu: Thanks, it was great [17:29] Corwin Carillon: NMC Team ROCKS! [17:29] Larry Pixel: HoooOO!!! [17:29] Larry Pixel: HooooOO! [17:29] Corwin Carillon: hehe literaly right now [17:30] Chimera Cosmos: Woo Hoo!!! [17:30] Larry Pixel: HoooOO!!! [17:30] Larry Pixel: HooooOO! [17:30] Larry Pixel: HoooOO!!! [17:30] Larry Pixel: HooooOO! [17:31] CDB Barkley: Weeee! ^.^ [17:31] CDB Barkley: Weeee! ^.^ [17:31] CDB Barkley: Weeee! ^.^ [17:31] CDB Barkley: Weeee! ^.^ [17:31] CDB Barkley: boing [17:31] Stella Costello: :D [17:31] Thursday Xu: gotta go thanks everybody!!!! [17:31] CDB Barkley: see ya Thursday [17:31] Stella Costello: Bye Thirsday! [17:31] CDB Barkley: It's Friday! [17:31] Bron Bloxome: CYA next week Thursday