[14:00] Brian Lamb: as ready as we are likely to get [14:01] Otto Khera: ha -- i'm in silver city, nm right now :) [14:01] Debby Knotts: so this is NM? [14:02] Otto Khera: roswell yes [14:02] James Downey: Is audio lower than previous sessions? [14:02] Debby Knotts: well not really, wrong cactus [14:02] Otto Khera: but there are no saguaros in New Mexico .... [14:02] Stephanie Brasley: yes, the audio is lower [14:02] Tom Haymes: What about figuratively believing? [14:03] Tom Woodward: in 2nd life cacti grow where they please [14:03] Debby Knotts: good point [14:03] Robert German: The future decided to go silent [14:03] Kurt Chambers: sound? [14:03] Otto Khera: sound? [14:03] Otto Khera: back [14:03] Alan Levine: keep your mic on? [14:04] Larry Johnson: hold the talk button down! [14:04] Tom Haymes: the tardis must be broken [14:04] Robert German: It is the time police. [14:04] Larry Johnson: lol [14:04] Tom Woodward: is he interupting his own existence? [14:04] Larry Johnson: I hear you [14:04] Eric Likness: it's turning into firesign theater [14:04] Kurt Chambers: same [14:04] Otto Khera: Dr. Who please .... [14:04] Larry Johnson: yes I heard that [14:04] Catherine Stephens: we heard that, too. [14:04] Bridget Sullivan: the same [14:04] Jonathan Bacon: WE hear you. [14:04] Andrew Thall: heard that [14:04] Alan Levine: yay [14:04] Larry Johnson: hehhhe [14:04] Alan Levine: The future is widely disjointed [14:06] Alan Levine: adjusted for inflation? [14:06] Debby Knotts: coool.... [14:07] Larry Johnson: omg there are still insurance salesmen in the future! [14:07] Alan Levine: that is dystopia [14:07] Anne Armstrong: insurance is betting against yourself [14:07] Bridget Sullivan: LOL [14:07] Alan Levine: identity theft... [14:08] Andrew Thall: I'm sold. [14:08] Alan Levine: a burger training back up [14:08] Debby Knotts: copyright costs, now thats planning lol [14:08] Otto Khera: ... you need to work for a university ;) [14:08] Rachel Smith: lol [14:08] Tom Woodward: http://wpmu.bionicteaching.com/edusafe/ [14:08] James Downey: This assumes cost will continue on current trajectory does it not? [14:09] Larry Johnson: hehhhheh this is fantastic [14:09] Alan Levine: hahha [14:09] Debby Knotts: this is great! [14:09] Larry Johnson: hahhhhha [14:09] Alan Levine: dude [14:09] Alan Levine: like, dude [14:09] James Abraham: Gnarley! [14:09] Larry Johnson: duder-iffic [14:10] Chris Holden: nice dreads [14:10] Eric Likness: Education is what happens OUTSIDE the classroom [14:10] Andrew Thall: the science of hacky sack [14:10] Otto Khera: And whom have you met? [14:10] Catherine Stephens: give him a chance.. [14:10] Brian Lamb: http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Mathematics/18-385JFall-2004/CourseHome/index.htm [14:11] Brian Lamb: http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUS246040901420091024 [14:11] Larry Johnson: hehhhhe "Moonchild" [14:11] Alan Levine: "donutCHild" [14:12] Andy Rush: CogDog - LOL [14:12] Jonathan Bacon: Not everyone can go to my community college! [14:12] Tom Haymes: Yes they can [14:12] Tom Haymes: :-) [14:13] Debby Knotts: lame tech... [14:13] Tom Haymes: Community College - English 101 - class size: 5000 [14:13] Catherine Stephens: Oooooooo... [14:13] Rachel Smith: lol [14:13] Andrew Thall: bullets won't stop 'em [14:14] Alan Levine: I knew we'd have zombies [14:14] Stephanie Brasley: zombies - omGOSH! [14:14] Tom Haymes: A zombie holocaust - that should cut down on the number of students needing college [14:14] Brian Lamb: http://wpmu.bionicteaching.com/edusafe/ [14:14] Debby Knotts: oh it was us... [14:14] Brian Lamb: Clicknow, click often [14:14] Steve Terry: I just thought were just republican [14:15] Tom Haymes: Yes, but France will also take away that "right" if they catch you pirating music or videos [14:15] Catherine Stephens: BTW, does anybody have a copy of the last session chat tucked away by chance? [14:15] Brian Lamb: That's so like Gardner to pretend he is not himself. [14:15] Jonathan Bacon: Yes Catherine [14:15] Catherine Stephens: oh thanks. [14:15] Catherine Stephens: next caller. [14:16] Catherine Stephens: radical :-) [14:17] Alan Levine: colored word clouds [14:17] Tom Haymes: is that a stogie or a doobie? [14:17] Catherine Stephens: stogie [14:17] Larry Johnson: I want what Moonchild is smoking [14:17] Chris Holden: *cough* blunt *cough* [14:17] Brian Lamb: http://www.netgenskeptic.com/ [14:18] Tom Haymes: someone who just knows how to text on their phone is not a "digital native" [14:18] Eric Likness: There is no long tail [14:19] Alan Levine: Will FutureMan throw in the ginsu knives with the insurance? [14:19] Catherine Stephens: you guys are so skeptical ! [14:20] Bridget Sullivan: Like TIAA-CREF automatic deposits? [14:20] James Downey: Don't we already have 529 plans and the like? [14:20] Tom Woodward: we do and soon we'll have them for k12 as well [14:20] Brian Lamb: This is a payment directly to the future. [14:20] Bridget Sullivan: LOL? [14:20] Alan Levine: The Future Will be Sold [14:21] Catherine Stephens: right on, Alan... [14:21] James Downey: Maybe Congress will tackle this after health care! [14:21] Catherine Stephens: Education should be a choice. [14:22] Stephanie Brasley: no public right to education - scary thought [14:22] Alan Levine: Hey FutureMan, what happened to that "WordPress MultiUser" thing? [14:22] James Downey: Was that way in the past [14:23] Stephanie Brasley: it is like going back to the haves and have nots [14:23] Alan Levine: insured and insured-nots [14:23] Stephanie Brasley: those that can afford it will advance [14:23] Andrew Thall: the death of the public school [14:23] Catherine Stephens: scary [14:23] Eric Likness: Before the GI Bill it was haves and have nots [14:23] James Downey: @Stephanie. Isn't that the case today? [14:23] Bridget Sullivan: In Baltimore the future you speak of is now. [14:24] Stephanie Brasley: yes, it is getting to be more like that although some have tried to close the gap [14:24] Catherine Stephens: i wanna kick this guy. [14:24] Stephanie Brasley: class is indeed the key [14:24] Stephanie Brasley: just like before [14:24] Bridget Sullivan: lol [14:24] Alan Levine: hah [14:25] Larry Johnson: Does EduServ protect us from wiki-spam too? [14:25] Gardner Campbell: Titor was from a parallel universe [14:25] Tom Haymes: "A popular government, without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is a prologue to a farce or a tragedy; or, perhaps, both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives." James Madison [14:25] Catherine Stephens: I love it .. ! [14:25] Gardner Campbell: 36 years ahead of ours [14:25] Andrew Thall: That's beautiful [14:25] Larry Johnson: Google TimeWarp [14:25] Liz Dorland: Sometimes you are so far in front of the wave that you think it has passed, but it's still huge and just so far back you can't see it. -- Re: thinking in 2000 :-) [14:25] Tom Woodward: beta [14:25] Debby Knotts: i knew google would do it! [14:25] Robert German: With advertisements [14:26] Larry Johnson: thus we have learned about EduServ? [14:26] Brian Lamb: http://www.abyssandapex.com/200710-wikihistory.html [14:26] Tom Haymes: is the future pre-determined or can we change it? [14:26] Liz Dorland: I vote change [14:26] Larry Johnson: he is not really here though -- he is phoning it in! [14:26] Alan Levine: can you share an nivite for that beta? [14:26] Eric Likness: spreading fud about the future is more profitable [14:26] Larry Johnson: timewarp.google.com [14:26] James Downey: Combination of change and adapt [14:27] Tom Haymes: talk about self-loathing [14:28] Alan Levine: Hey FutureMan, there is a gut down the dial from 2032, and he is ofering insurance for $500/month [14:29] Liz Dorland: Charter schools? LOL I 'll pass on that deal :-0 [14:29] Steve Terry: hee-hee [14:29] Bridget Sullivan: nice collection! [14:29] Brian Lamb: Any more questions for our guest from the future? [14:29] Alan Levine: he needs a gun [14:29] Anne Armstrong: Can we "buy" insurance for education using something besides money? [14:30] Larry Johnson: ummearika [14:30] Andy Rush: It's Woody Harelson! [14:30] Debby Knotts: those fancy guys...heehee [14:30] Tom Haymes: is he the hunter or the victim? [14:30] Alan Levine: How does EduSafe make money? [14:30] Eric Likness: the status quo will out [14:30] Tom Haymes: margins [14:30] James Downey: Can I get a phaser in 2026? [14:30] Tom Haymes: a xerox phaser [14:30] Liz Dorland: Margaret Spellings would love that guy heheh [14:31] Bridget Sullivan: Standardize Education! just think of the policy making opportunities! [14:31] Bryan Krusniak: Hey future man. How many "schools" are there in the future? [14:31] Alan Levine: FutureMan, who is doing the teaching in the future? [14:31] James Downey: In VA we call that SOLs [14:31] Tom Haymes: CLem is doing the teaching in the future [14:31] Tom Woodward: shit out of lucks [14:32] Catherine Stephens: why are we listening to an insurance salesman? [14:32] Eric Likness: I'd like to see Clem make a claim on that insurance in the future [14:32] Brian Lamb: I have seen the future, it is actuarialy correct [14:32] Catherine Stephens: Thank you, John.. [14:33] Alan Levine: Futureman, where does that $1500/month go? [14:34] Tom Haymes: it slices, it dices, it's the sledge-o-matic [14:34] Eric Likness: like lindens? [14:34] Andrew Thall: L$ [14:34] Catherine Stephens: L$, I knew it. [14:34] Tom Woodward: I want to pay in social currency [14:34] Robert German: Gold teeth [14:34] Tom Haymes: how do we send you the tender? [14:35] Debby Knotts: omg [14:35] Alan Levine: Math and pushups! [14:35] Tom Woodward: @jason it's all about the degree [14:35] Bridget Sullivan: do they refer to the campuses of the future as camps? [14:35] James Abraham: Tackles the childhood obesity problem as well. [14:35] Catherine Stephens: oh this was fun. [14:36] Becky Adams: *applause* [14:36] James Downey: Well interesting at least [14:36] Tom Haymes: Does he actually travel through time or is this just a transmission? [14:36] Catherine Stephens: Gold is good. [14:36] Alan Levine: invest in zombies! [14:36] James Downey: I'll just take the chip from Ray Kurzweil [14:36] Tom Haymes: Put a penny in a bank in 1500 and through the miracle of compound interest you'll be able to afford the bill [14:36] Bridget Sullivan: I think I read AIG is offering this program too. [14:36] Becky Adams: lol [14:36] Claudia Linden: :D [14:36] Eric Likness: /clap [14:36] Alan Levine is clapping in confusion [14:37] Stephanie Brasley: very provocative talke [14:37] Jonathan Bacon: /applause [14:37] Diane Williams: claps! [14:37] Wally Alvaranza: Clap [14:37] Mary Howerton: claps [14:37] Stephanie Brasley: claps!!! [14:37] Catherine Stephens: haven't laughed this much in a while ! [14:37] Chris Holden: woo! [14:37] Andy Rush: Encore! [14:37] Bridget Sullivan: down right bone chilling [14:37] Tami Curley: Well done! [14:37] Rachel Smith: sorry, my voice/mic is not working [14:37] Bryan Krusniak: Well done. [14:37] Sue Shick: bravo [14:37] Stephanie Brasley: framing the future of ed. in terms of insurance is both funny and scary [14:37] Robert German: Just got a call for Future Man--your lithium is waiting for you. [14:37] Brian Lamb: Thanks for your tolerance everyone. [14:37] Bridget Sullivan: lol [14:38] Brian Lamb: http://bionicteaching.com/future/sources.html [14:38] Larry Johnson: w00t!!! [14:38] Eric Likness: riffing is good [14:39] Catherine Stephens: take it on the road.. [14:39] Andy Rush: We love Tom! [14:39] Brian Lamb: Thanks to the NMC for the great conference, and all their help pulling this session together. [14:40] Sue Shick: I guess we take public education for granted [14:40] Rachel Smith: hmm, hard to say which is scarier... this vision, or Peter Shoemaker's four scenarios from yesterday... [14:40] Catherine Stephens: it's sobering. we may not be that far off... [14:41] James Downey: What is driving the move to privatzation [14:41] Stephanie Brasley: @Rachel Smith - I agree [14:41] Brian Lamb: The student whois impersonating Gardner has a scary grasp of Art Bell's show [14:41] Gardner Campbell: Thank you [14:41] Gardner Campbell: (?) [14:41] Gardner Campbell: Although I do not listen to it [14:42] Tom Woodward: what's interesting to me are that the people trusting or not trusting the teachers often have no ed knowledge [14:42] Eric Likness: Costs definitely keep getting shifted, but they never disappear [14:42] Gardner Campbell: Sorry for the 'impersonation.' he left before I got here so I do not know how I would go about using a different name [14:42] Rachel Smith: @gardner campbell it's OK :-) [14:43] Gardner Campbell: I am registered on NMC however [14:43] Brian Lamb: Illicit learning http://thepiratebay.org/search/textbook/0/99/0 [14:43] Alan Levine: slactivism [14:43] Bridget Sullivan: good point [14:43] Eric Likness: passivism [14:44] Jonathan Bacon: Slackerism [14:44] Rachel Smith: I think that visualizing where we DON'T want to go can help us figure out where we DO, and maybe get there [14:45] Catherine Stephens: public schools are failing a lot of kids.. [14:45] Bridget Sullivan: Talk about killing creativity [14:45] Andrew Thall: an abandonment of faith in public education by both left and right. [14:45] Sue Shick: Cause that is the easiest to measure [14:45] Alan Wolf: I was wondering what was going on with Gardner as he is presenting at a UW system conference right now. He's a busy man [14:46] Gardner Campbell: well the Hakone accounts are separate from the NMC.org account correct? [14:46] Alan Levine: yes [14:46] Jonathan Bacon: While accountability is important, how do you measure the joy of learning conveyed by a "good" teacher? [14:46] Tom Woodward: multiple choice test? [14:46] Sue Shick: lol [14:46] Tom Woodward: if it's normed [14:46] Alan Levine: (c) all of the above [14:47] Tom Woodward: everything has a right answer [14:47] Tom Woodward: just like the real world [14:47] Jonathan Bacon: Public option in Higher Ed is the Communty College [14:47] Jacquelyn Erdman: well, some that were cheaper now want to be "research institutions" so they can charge more [14:47] Lauren Shawl: crippling... definitely on a teacher's salary [14:47] Brian Lamb: Nice one Rex! [14:48] Robert German: Terrific guys--thanks. [14:48] Andy Rush: Way to go guys! [14:48] Rachel Smith: yay! thanks guys! very engaging and interesting [14:48] Brian Lamb: Here's to the NMC! [14:48] Robert German: Go get that smoke, Jim :- ) [14:48] Bridget Sullivan: Excellent thoguht provoking. Thanks! [14:48] Jim Groom: thanks for being a lot of fun with us, best [14:48] Becky Adams: *lots of applause* [14:48] Jonathan Bacon: Fun session, very thought provoking. :-) [14:48] Claudia Linden: Thanks. [14:48] Andrew Thall: Some hard issues. Great session! [14:48] Sue Shick: brilliant presentation [14:48] Tom Woodward: thank y'all [14:48] Jim Groom: thank you everyone [14:48] Robin Heyden: bye! [14:48] Rachel Smith: clapclapclapclap! [14:48] Sue Shick: bb [14:49] Buffy Bye: well done [14:49] Rex Heer: thanks! [14:49] Bridget Sullivan: clapclapclap [14:49] Ruben Puentedura: Thank you guys - great job! [14:49] Debby Knotts: thank YOU!