[15:16] Shaffer Parx: Hello [15:16] Elli Pinion: hello! [15:16] Shaffer Parx: haha [15:16] Corwin Howlett: me [15:16] Jamer Jarman: yes [15:16] Ilene Pratt: yes [15:16] Jamer Jarman: yes [15:17] Shaffer Parx: f [15:17] Jamer Jarman: yes [15:17] Ilene Pratt: joined over a year ago [15:17] Jamer Jarman: yes [15:17] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: 2005 [15:18] Thursday Xu: not all of us are teachers [15:19] :: : Dagreen Sands: hi [15:19] Steve47 Tenk: U of Memphis [15:19] Rane Mistwallow: Teacher k12 [15:19] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: San Diego State is not yet [15:19] Steve47 Tenk: part time adjunct [15:19] Krystalbird Dirval: University of the Sacred Heart [15:19] Steve47 Tenk: full time administrator [15:20] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: faculty development for me [15:20] Vesperpeak Nightfire: student services uses MySpace for student activities [15:20] Steve47 Tenk: yes [15:20] Ilene Pratt: Yes [15:20] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: our library does FB and MS [15:20] Bron Bloxome: I work in online professional development and use FB for that [15:23] Bron Bloxome: I have a question about whether should appropriate all the tools of students social identity building to the service of education. Will there be no sanctuary for them? [15:23] CDB Barkley: creepy tree house effect? [15:23] Hyperion Sands: I'll address that Bron. [15:24] Bron Bloxome: Thx Hyperion [15:24] Hyperion Sands: CDB, I'll discuss that as well... [15:25] Jamer Jarman: isn't that what we do in the classroom anyway? [15:25] Thursday Xu: yes [15:25] Gattina McAlpine: no [15:25] CDB Barkley: http://flexknowlogy.learningfield.org/2008/04/09/defining-creepy-tree-house/ [15:25] CDB Barkley: more http://www.google.is/search?q=creepy+treehouse+effect [15:25] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: ECAR 2008 study on undergraduate use of technology has a section on social media [15:26] Jamer Jarman: the problem with facebook is that it offers only the single relationship, 'friend' [15:26] Bron Bloxome: the "others" they present themselves to are their chosen networks and friends [15:26] Bron Bloxome: should course management happen in FB? [15:26] Shaffer Parx: do you mean like communicating with students? [15:27] Hyperion Sands: http://www.edumorphology.com/?p=42 [15:28] Bron Bloxome: Do we as teaches need to see all the aspects of student lives? We can see their drunken clubbing photos, which boy dumped them etc if we have associations with them - well the limited profile access does have a small impact on that [15:29] Krystalbird Dirval: I agree [15:29] Bron Bloxome: good idea Jarold [15:29] Jason Shinja: See: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2007/nov/05/link.students [15:29] CDB Barkley: typing someitnh [15:30] Bron Bloxome: thx Jason [15:30] Hyperion Sands: http://friendfeed.com/rooms/rock-the-academy [15:30] :: : Corwin Howlett: Read someitnh here in RR just fine [15:31] Bron Bloxome: Adoption cluster - theory [15:31] Hyperion Sands: http://friendfeed.com/rooms/rock-the-academy [15:32] shoshanna Baxton: exactly! [15:32] Krystalbird Dirval: Could you create a group in facebook to post the links? [15:33] CDB Barkley: yes [15:33] CDB Barkley: you have to tell us [15:33] Larry Pixel: Post them to the NMC group! [15:33] CDB Barkley: technology adoption [15:33] Larry Pixel: that is your camera is stuck [15:34] Larry Pixel: just take a step [15:34] Larry Pixel: you look fine to us [15:34] :: : Corwin Howlett: virtual earthquake [15:34] Larry Pixel: now now [15:36] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: coffee is a long time? [15:38] Bron Bloxome: link for symbolic interaction theory ? [15:38] Thursday Xu: weak ties [15:38] Hyperion Sands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_interactionism [15:39] Hyperion Sands: http://books.google.com/books?id=lhdyvDMUeLMC&dq=symbolic+interaction&pg=PP1&ots=7J-fCV1NJM&source=bn&sig=xxS13UvZRDUSRbkyvElrV9l4Ybs&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result [15:39] Mari Asturias: change management ... is tough [15:40] Bron Bloxome: thx Hyperion [15:41] Bron Bloxome: making lecturers human ;-) [15:42] shoshanna Baxton: making professors human! :) [15:42] CDB Barkley: informal connections [15:42] Thursday Xu: first-year seminar for specific groups [15:42] Steve47 Tenk: at risk students? [15:42] Thursday Xu: enhancing the transition to college [15:43] Larry Pixel: I do not have students, but my experience is that the links among my FB friends are pretty tenuous [15:43] Vesperpeak Nightfire: continued mentorship after graduation [15:43] shoshanna Baxton: What do you mean tenuous [15:43] Larry Pixel: not very strong [15:45] Hyperion Sands: http://connect.educause.edu/Library/ECAR/TheECARStudyofUndergradua/47485 [15:45] JoeRusso Runningbear: i'm in higher ed, not a teacher, but work with professors. if professors decide to use facebook to engage students and achieve objectives, the objectives have to be specific [15:45] Thursday Xu: I completed a Masters thesis in August: "Exploring the Congruence of Ethnic Minority Millennials' Transition to College, Identity and Community, and Online Social Network Services" [15:45] JoeRusso Runningbear: for example, maybe coputer science students work on developing a facebook application [15:45] Larry Pixel: Nice Thursday -- is it online? [15:45] JoeRusso Runningbear: coputer --> computer [15:45] Thursday Xu: not yet [15:46] Thursday Xu: :-) [15:46] shoshanna Baxton: Where can I read that, Thursday? [15:46] Steve47 Tenk: are there applications that have been developed for unversity admistrators? [15:46] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: The privacy settings in FB are very confusing. [15:46] Larry Pixel: yes [15:46] JoeRusso Runningbear: does anyone use the Blackboard Facebook add-in? [15:46] Thursday Xu: It should be available through our library soon - Iowa State U. [15:47] Ginger Questi: Is your Facebook application part of the Facebook system or another product like ELGG? [15:47] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: Making it difficult to know who sees what. [15:47] Larry Pixel: Russo [15:47] Larry Pixel: good question Joerusso [15:47] Bron Bloxome: Lots of institutional and organisational apps are mimicking aspects of FB [15:47] shoshanna Baxton: you add it as an app -- just like any other [15:47] Bron Bloxome: The "XXX is..." is cropping up everywhere [15:48] Krystalbird Dirval: Completely agree [15:49] Ginger Questi: Shoshanna, do you mean an [15:49] Bron Bloxome: There has been preliminary research on groups in FB and how mush hard work they are to sustain [15:49] Ginger Questi: "app" in Facebook system? [15:49] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: For example, tagging a photo with a friend’s name in a private album, pulls it out of that privacy setting. [15:49] JoeRusso Runningbear: could too much positive feedback be "Creepy"? [15:49] Bron Bloxome: OK you can pull heaps of people in but are they engaging? [15:50] CDB Barkley: It is not the treehouse, it is when a university tries to create its own "facebook" [15:50] Krystalbird Dirval: You can create a group for the class and then send a message to all members, not so personal [15:50] shoshanna Baxton: That's why I was talking about clustering and media substitution --we have to educate them [15:51] JoeRusso Runningbear: Bb Sync (for Facebook): http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=27522527824 [15:51] Hyperion Sands: unsure of your question CDB? [15:52] Caspar Lefevre: Another question - I find that about 75% of my students are on facebook, which makes me hesitate to use it in class because by doing so I am basically sending customers to Facebook, which I'm not sure I want to do in terms of corporate patronage. [15:52] Bron Bloxome: Groups in FB are hard work [15:52] JoeRusso Runningbear: Full disclosure: my university can't get Bb Sync to work. Works for some, but not others. [15:52] Krystalbird Dirval: Not so [15:52] CDB Barkley: Those numbers are amazing [15:52] Bron Bloxome: it really is designed for netwprking individuals [15:52] Larry Pixel: wow those numbers are amazing [15:53] CDB Barkley: 7 MINUTE WARNING [15:53] shoshanna Baxton: ok [15:53] JoeRusso Runningbear: Good point Caspar -corporate patronage [15:54] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: better user interface [15:54] Steve47 Tenk: we would want recruitment and retention issues to be addressed [15:54] Caspar Lefevre: how do we send you our facebook id? [15:54] Thursday Xu: parents might not like universities to encourage incoming freshmen to join facebook. [15:54] Krystalbird Dirval: Yes, how? [15:54] CDB Barkley: friend him [15:55] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: is pretty bad [15:55] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: the privacy settings are very confusing [15:55] JoeRusso Runningbear: Facebook is very distracting [15:55] Bron Bloxome: FB rocks it - I love it have it open all day [15:55] Steve47 Tenk: do you see FB being used on a PC or on their mobile devices? [15:55] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: students don't usually get deep into the privacy settings [15:56] Steve47 Tenk: use it on my BB [15:56] Krystalbird Dirval: You have to teach them to use the privacy settings [15:56] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: that's my point Krystabird [15:56] Hyperion Sands: I agree [15:56] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: it shouldn't be that hard [15:56] Larry Pixel: that's how i use it [15:56] CDB Barkley: There were some recent numbers on number of photos in FB, that was astounding [15:57] Krystalbird Dirval: Wow!! [15:57] CDB Barkley: wow [15:57] Larry Pixel: but now it is becoming another place to go for email [15:57] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: as compared with google products FB isn't so great imho [15:57] Larry Pixel: source? [15:57] JoeRusso Runningbear: For students who don't use it, we end up becoming Facebook trainers, wasting time in class. [15:57] Krystalbird Dirval: Do you have students who are not users??? [15:58] JR Zimminy: My kids don't even use their email accounts anymore...all communication with their friends is done in Facebook. [15:58] Larry Pixel: my son says email is for old people [15:58] Shaffer Parx: i think they are comfortable with it [15:58] Bron Bloxome: FB has IP issues - they own the right to the photos added there [15:58] Krystalbird Dirval: It doesn't take a lot of time [15:58] CDB Barkley: 10 billion photos http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=30695603919 [15:58] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: There are holes in the privacy settings. [15:59] Larry Pixel: wow [15:59] Larry Pixel: ty CDB [15:59] CDB Barkley: but you cannot do anything out of FB [15:59] Bron Bloxome: but very different to Flickr IP [16:02] Larry Pixel: great session!! [16:02] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: Those are great requirements! :) Wonderful list of ideas. [16:02] Larry Pixel claps wildly !!! [16:02] Larry Pixel claps wildly !!! [16:02] Larry Pixel claps wildly !!! [16:02] Hyperion Sands: yes [16:02] Shaffer Parx: nice job [16:02] Krystalbird Dirval: Clap clap clap [16:02] Hyperion Sands: www.inigral.com [16:02] :: : Suzanne Aurilio: thank you very much! [16:02] Caspar Lefevre: clap clap clap [16:02] Deee Falta: clap clap clap [16:02] shoshanna Baxton: thanks. Thanks for your comments!! [16:02] Hyperion Sands: http://www.vimeo.com/inigral [16:03] Rane Mistwallow: Thank you [16:03] Hyperion Sands: mpstaton@inigral.com [16:03] Deee Falta: thanks [16:03] Shaffer Parx: thanks [16:03] Thursday Xu: yay - thanks! [16:03] Ilene Pratt: Thank you! [16:03] CDB Barkley: .applause [16:03] CDB Barkley: .-'`'-. APPLAUSE APPLAUSE .-'`'-. [16:03] :: : HVX Silverstar: Thanks... loved it... Suzanne Aurilio: applause [16:03] Caspar Lefevre: applause [16:03] Larry Pixel: don't miss it! We saved the best for last [16:04] Larry Pixel claps wildly !!! [16:04] Elli Pinion: applause!!! [16:04] CDB Barkley: Nice job Michael and Susan