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[edit] Second Life Educators Panel Session Transcript Pt 1 of 2

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"Are We Playing Games? Finding Legitimacy in the Academy"
Second Life is filled with brilliant proof-of-concept trials by educators working alone, unfunded and often after hours. Only a few academic efforts are official, integrated and well funded. Why is that? What keeps the mainstream IT folks at bay and banishes early adopters to the fringe of “game studies?” This panel will define the legitimacy gap, explore how it might be breached and go on to discuss what teaching in Second Life could look like with broad acceptance. How will students use streaming 3D when navigating an avatar is as common as logging in to MySpace?

[11:54] Jeremy Kabumpo: all speakers ot the chairs, please :-)

[11:54] Lyr Lobo: Hello everyone *smiles*

[11:54] Jeremy Kabumpo: :-)

[11:54] Enjay Ellison: Greetings

[11:56] ChuckNorris Mission is Online

[11:56] totally Vavoom is Online

[11:57] Lyr Lobo: do we need to listen to the music control setting or skypecast? or will this be a text chat ? *smiles*

[11:57] Larry Pixel: Please turn on your music control to hear the sound

[11:57] CDB Barkley: Sound is on the music channel

[11:58] CDB Barkley: We will be starting in a few minutes

[11:58] Lyr Lobo: thank you...no sound yet, right?

[11:58] CDB Barkley: But the presenters will be speaking via audio

[11:58] Larry Pixel: How is the sound folks?

[11:58] Dagmar Kojishi: Is there any sound yet?

[11:58] CDB Barkley: It takes a few seconds

[11:58] Bill Friis: No

[11:58] CDB Barkley: there is a lag

[11:58] Professor Beliveau: music just went off

[11:58] Enjay Ellison: none so far

[11:58] Professor Beliveau: typing sounds now

[11:58] CDB Barkley: hang on...

[11:59] CDB Barkley: We are waiting for the sound stream to start

[11:59] Larry Pixel: We're having some technical difficulites pleasse hold on a sec

[11:59] Intellagirl Tully: HI everyone!

[11:59] totally Vavoom: Hi Tully!

[11:59] Gauisus Speculaas: HI, IntellaGirl

[11:59] totally Vavoom: Hey, Lyr, Prog, everyone :-)

[11:59] CDB Barkley: We are working on audio

[12:00] totally Vavoom: Prof, not Prog ;-)

[12:00] Professor Beliveau: gretts

[12:00] CDB Barkley: dialing

[12:00] Watsnu Pussycat: Oops

[12:00] Josephine Junot: Hello, all!

[12:00] Gauisus Speculaas: getting sound

[12:00] Larry Pixel: OK we are streaming

[12:00] CDB Barkley: Okay, we are getting ready

[12:00] Professor Beliveau: hearing you cd

[12:00] CDB Barkley: We hear you

[12:00] Gauisus Speculaas: hello

[12:00] Professor Beliveau: calling in

[12:00] Gauisus Speculaas: :)

[12:00] Larry Pixel: Plese call back in

[12:01] Ali Andrews: I lost the phone call

[12:01] Amaagariwah Kawabata: Hello everyone!

[12:01] Larry Pixel: so sorry all is working now

[12:01] CDB Barkley: We have audio!

[12:01] Lyr Lobo grins in welcome

[12:01] Watsnu Pussycat: we hear you

[12:01] totally Vavoom: really low on my end,

[12:01] Larry Pixel: Jeremy plaezae call back in

[12:01] CDB Barkley: Please tune in to your music channel

[12:02] Lyr Lobo: / thinks that the sound is clear at her end with half volume

[12:02] Troy McLuhan: I hear everyone on the streaming audio :)

[12:03] Larry Pixel: Please join us for the SLED session taking place in Woolsey Hall Access the audio with your music control

[12:05] ChuckNorris Mission is Offline

[12:05] Larry Pixel: If you'd like a tp top the session IM Larry Pixel Access the audio from the panel with your music control

[12:09] Li Xi: /anyone else losing audio?

[12:09] CDB Barkley: Audio seems fine here

[12:09] totally Vavoom: mine's turned all the way up to be able to hear well

[12:09] CDB Barkley: We are recording

[12:09] Dudeney Ge: Finefor me too

[12:09] Duck Peck: fine for me too

[12:10] Larry Pixel: mine is at 50%

[12:10] Larry Pixel: sounds clear

[12:10] CDB Barkley: Feel free to chat in your questions?

[12:12] Fleep Tuque: Were some of your funds used to pay other "residents" of SL to build content on your islands, or did you and your staff provide all of the building/scripting/etc?

[12:12] Larry Pixel: I describe our activities as exploring collaboration and knowledge sharing in "3-D virtual spaces"

[12:12] Larry Pixel: I do not recommend the phrase "buy an island in SL"

[12:13] Fleep Tuque: And if you hired content builders, was that built into your grant funding proposal? - Thanks.

[12:13] Fleep Tuque: Thanks!

[12:14] Professor Beliveau: also, please repeat who you are from time to time

[12:14] Duck Peck: What's are the expectations for University IT departments when it comes to supporting SL as an application? Harvard's requirements for "The Court of Public Opinion" include that the student should be able to access SL on their personal machines.

[12:15] Duck Peck: Do you have computer labs specialized for SL usage?

[12:15] totally Vavoom: we are exploring it with a first year seminar class, and yes, we've come to the conclusion that students need to ahve the appropriate hardware/software on their personal machines

[12:16] In Kenzo gave you ccremixvitaintegra.

[12:16] Duck Peck: Haha, thanks!

[12:16] totally Vavoom: I think one of the issues with a campus lab is keeping up with the upgrades

[12:16] Fleep Tuque: Indeed, video cards in most computer labs do not meet the minimum requirements for SL.

[12:17] Larry Pixel: I hadn't thought about that....Black Wednesday's woudl be an issue

[12:17] Dagmar Kojishi: How did you deal with skepticism from colleagues about the usefulness of SL, in light of the fact that a lot of faculty still don't really believe "regular online" classes are "as good"? Did you run into that?

[12:17] Duck Peck: indeed

[12:17] Larry Pixel: Wow!! What a fantastic story!

[12:17] totally Vavoom: or at univesities that emphasize f2f learning as their primary edge, faculty resistance is high as well

[12:18] Professor Beliveau: I'm getting to hand pick my students for my first trial in january ... 8 limit (plus one as a videographer), multimedia majors only, by application that requires tech savy and SL experience

[12:18] Duck Peck: makes sense

[12:18] Zizou Zetkin is Online

[12:18] Larry Pixel: lol

[12:18] Puglet Dancer: What is your website address and can others visit your island?

[12:18] Fleep Tuque: Good question!

[12:19] Dudeney Ge: Action!

[12:19] Gauisus Speculaas: ae you recording any of this as perhaps a podcasted element?

[12:19] CDB Barkley: http://www.intellagirl.com

[12:19] CDB Barkley: Yes we are recording

[12:19] Fleep Tuque: Middletown Island

[12:19] Duck Peck: Thanks!

[12:19] CDB Barkley: applause

[12:19] Fleep Tuque: Thank you! Excellent presentation!

[12:19] CDB Barkley: I'll get you one

[12:19] Puglet Dancer: Thank you!

[12:20] Larry Pixel: Access the audio on the music channe;

[12:20] Larry Pixel: This is the first event in Woolsey Ha;;

[12:22] Zizou Zetkin is Offline

[12:22] Zizou Zetkin is Online

[12:23] Jeremy Kabumpo: UIUC website has some excellent animated tutorials about SL scripting, BTW

[12:24] Amaagariwah Kawabata: http://faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/stettega/virtualworlds/index.html

[12:25] Zizou Zetkin is Offline

[12:25] Zizou Zetkin is Online

[12:25] CDB Barkley: Congrats!

[12:26] Adrian Sutter: Were the kids on the Teen SL grid?

[12:26] Zizou Zetkin is Offline

[12:26] Zizou Zetkin is Online

[12:27] Watsnu Pussycat: we hear you

[12:27] CDB Barkley: You re fine

[12:28] Intellagirl Tully: can you mention what the major TOS conflicts were?

[12:29] Eve Uramen: where is the audio???

[12:29] CDB Barkley: Audio is on the music channel

[12:29] CDB Barkley: Yes

[12:29] Dagmar Kojishi: Still good.

[12:29] Fleep Tuque: Hit play on the music channel

[12:29] Jamus Keen: i'm fine

[12:29] Troy McLuhan: I still hear

[12:29] Watsnu Pussycat: yes, we hear you

[12:29] Gauisus Speculaas: hear ya fine

[12:30] Lyr Lobo: You sound great

[12:30] Porterhouse Dobbs: Where will you publish that report?

[12:30] Larry Pixel: Access the audio from this panel with your music control

[12:31] Fleep Tuque: You mentioned that your students were required to build in some assessment as part of their projects, can you describe some of those tools? We have some concerns about measuring the effectiveness of using SL as a teaching tool.

[12:33] Gauisus Speculaas: Do you think there'll ever be something like the teen grid but rather the "Educational Grid?"

[12:34] Eve Uramen: thank you

[12:34] CDB Barkley: One of those ;-)

[12:34] Eve Uramen: how can I use the phone

[12:34] Zizou Zetkin is Offline

[12:34] Dagmar Kojishi: I'm still not sure I understand what the problem was? Concerns about loss of IP? How could the privacy of students be compromised? (not doubting, but inquring.)

[12:34] Larry Pixel: Send questions via chat

[12:35] Fleep Tuque: Thank you! :)

[12:36] Zizou Zetkin is Online

[12:36] Milosun Czervik: and I thought communism was dead.

[12:36] Fleep Tuque: laugh

[12:36] Conover's SuperSmooth Flight-Helper 2.2a 010 50 whispers: Max-Velocity now set to 100 M/s.

[12:36] Conover's SuperSmooth Flight-Helper 2.2a 010 50 whispers: Commands: /flyhelp to get documentation.

[12:37] Professor Beliveau: welcome pat.. good work larry, thanks

[12:37] Zizou Zetkin is Offline

[12:39] Zizou Zetkin is Online

[12:39] Gauisus Speculaas: I'm hearing about adults in the teen grid--did you that through a special dispensation from Linden Labs? Can you speak to the process by which you acquired that? ( question for when you get to q&a:)

[12:41] CDB Barkley: Was he doing this on his own?

[12:41] Larry Pixel: to get onthe Teen Grid, I think you need a backgroudn check and a reason to be there

[12:41] Zizou Zetkin is Offline

[12:42] Zizou Zetkin is Online

[12:42] Milosun Czervik: thereby taking advantage of the whole "MM" part of the MMORPG.

[12:43] Milosun Czervik: nice.

[12:44] Gauisus Speculaas: thank you

[12:45] Dan Magpie: http://idmi.poly.edu

[12:45] Josephine Junot: imagineic.nl

[12:46] Josephine Junot: waag.org

[12:46] Dan Magpie: http://imagineic.nl

[12:46] Gauisus Speculaas: lol

[12:47] Dan Magpie: http://share.dj

[12:48] Walter Witte is Online

[12:49] Fleep Tuque: Since this was a collaborative environment, did you find that the mechanics of navigating SL, the interface and etc., distracted from the primary purpose of your project in any significant way?

[12:50] Fleep Tuque: *laugh* It is! =)

[12:51] CDB Barkley: "teen grid is violent" ???

[12:51] Intellagirl Tully: it's rough over there!

[12:51] Watsnu Pussycat: wow

[12:51] CDB Barkley: wow, I was naive

[12:51] Milosun Czervik: they can't have sex... hence...

[12:52] Gauisus Speculaas: lol

[12:52] totally Vavoom: lol!

[12:52] Gauisus Speculaas: they can dance, though?

[12:52] Fleep Tuque: Thank you!

[12:54] Troy McLuhan: Current sim count = 44 people

[12:54] Dan Magpie: btw, see http://zoomlab.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kids_Connect for more info :)

[12:57] Larry Pixel: Access the audio form ouor panel via your music control

[12:58] Milosun Czervik: good point... promote buy-in from folks who don't "get it"

[12:58] Lev Book: Yup!

[12:58] Lev Book: THanks

[12:58] Lev Book: Super

[12:59] Fleep Tuque: Wow!

[12:59] Duck Peck: huge!

[12:59] Fleep Tuque: That's impressive!

[12:59] Intellagirl Tully: beautiful

[12:59] CDB Barkley: Beauty

[12:59] Troy McLuhan: I visited the building... You did a great job

[12:59] CDB Barkley: !!!!!

[13:00] Walter Witte is Offline

[13:00] Eve Uramen: how can I see her slides

[13:01] CDB Barkley: Slides are on screen behind panel

[13:01] CDB Barkley: Use alt/option- mouse to zoom in

[13:02] Eve Uramen: they too far away

[13:02] Dan Magpie: the black sun? cooooool :)

[13:02] totally Vavoom: way cool!

[13:02] CDB Barkley: hold alt click mouse on screen and move mouse away from you -- zoom tool

[13:02] Intellagirl Tully: it's awesome...go see it

[13:02] totally Vavoom: where is it again tully?

[13:03] Intellagirl Tully: on Glidden

[13:03] totally Vavoom: gotcha, thanks!

[13:03] Amaagariwah Kawabata: Ali have you had any faculty from your university who are interested in collaborating with you?

[13:03] Eve Uramen: thank you

[13:03] Walter Witte is Online

[13:03] CDB Barkley: They are a bridge??

[13:04] Gauisus Speculaas: can you pop us a landmark to glidden?

[13:04] totally Vavoom: yes!!!

[13:04] Larry Pixel: yes that is critical

[13:04] totally Vavoom: thanks gauisus!

[13:04] Gauisus Speculaas: ;)

[13:04] Milosun Czervik: it's not easy to impress a full-on administrator.

[13:05] Larry Pixel: you don;t need much, but some connection to Rl is helpful

[13:05] Fleep Tuque: Symbolic representations, I can see how that would help people identify what you are doing.

[13:05] Milosun Czervik: great way to characterize it.

[13:05] Professor Beliveau: Isn't it useful, in certain class situations, helpful to be able to "close off" the group from wandering outsiders? And don't built spaces help with that?

[13:05] Intellagirl Tully: and it established a sigature for your campus

[13:05] Larry Pixel: we did that here on NMC Campus....for example, we rarely use these classrooms, but they are very importnat to have here

[13:05] Larry Pixel: having a Library is imporant

[13:06] Larry Pixel: these are all connecitons that peole can hang their hat one

[13:06] Larry Pixel: on

[13:06] Professor Beliveau: I want a space for my (upcoming) class where I don't have to deal with a lot of traffic

[13:06] CDB Barkley: Well put

[13:06] Jeremy Kabumpo: goldstone & son, 2005

[13:06] Jeremy Kabumpo: concreteness fading

[13:07] Jeremy Kabumpo: journal of learning sciences, 14(1) 69-110

Continued... part 2

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